Shadow of memories ex ending 23/13/2023 (This is the point of the decision in chapter 5, since You Know Who is eavesdropping and it affects his later plans. The ABC and DE timelines are mutually exclusive. So for every more day gained one day in his past is forgotten. It's also possible that Eike can only remember as many years of memory as he's old, since he doesn't age he can only remember the past 25 or so years of his existence.In the end, it's a case of Selective Memory. Then again, there's endings where the good doctor dies, so his past may be as in flux as his future. Though he does remember the museum owner as a friend, so he does have at least some long term memomory of recent years. The human mind might not be capable of handling more than a few hundred years of memories, then again, homunculus' de-aging gave him immediate amnesia, it may just be recurring every X years.If that's true then why doesn't Eike remember anything since the accident occurred? After all he had over 400 years to live through, surely he remembered would have remembered something?.Wagner de-aged by Homonculus with his memory erased. So who is Eike exactly? Is he actually a younger Dr.so it was something like that," and all), and I wouldn't trust Homunculus as far as I could throw him. Does anyone else think the Homunculus was lying about what happened to Wagner in the E ending? I mean, it's entirely possible that what we're seeing isn't so much a proper flashback as a dramatization of what he's telling Eike (at the end of the scene we see Homunculus saying ".Maybe seeing Eike there was what gave him the idea to make the old guy young again, and set him up to play Eike's role later on? All he was shown to do in the flashback in E was make the alchemist disappear. Wagner, Homunculus would be inside the stone, and not free to climb out of the ruins of the lab. Which confuses things further, since in timeline D, while Homunculus would've already seen that Eike is a younger version of Dr.Wagner he doesn't know Eike yet, but Eike (being from later in the timeline subjective to Homunculus) already knows the little djinn. Homunculus was only just released from the stone by Dr. This can be better explained by looking at the timeline itself.(This Troper owns and has played all three. All voice acting is the same in every version. Confirmedly NOT a translation problem: the Japanese release of this game is identical in content (if not title) to the US and Europe releases, but with Japanese subtitles.It's quite plausible that the original Japanese version had some kind of noncommittal "what?" or "oh" that got translated to Homunculus asking who Eike is, since it would look like a good creative translation to someone who saw the scene and didn't think of it in the context of the whole game. To me, that sounds like it could be a translation problem.As for the second question Homunculus may have just lied in order to maintain his cover. So it's possible he might have recognized Eike on a subconscious level but he either didn't put two and two together or he shrugged off any similarities between himself and Eike as a coincedence. From what I remember Wagner did comment on Eike's youth specifically when he made his wish. ![]() Also when Eike goes to the lab basement after the explosion, he sees Homunculus, but he doesn't recognise Eike! If Homunculus had just changed Wagner into Eike, then Homunculus should have recognised Eike. Wagner recognise Eike as the younger version of himself? Surely he didn't forget what he looked like when he was young. It's all one big fourth-wall-breaking meta thing. By the time you get to the EX endings, Eike has been through this enough times that he has become aware of it. ![]()
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